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is there an android equivalent?

Roob Allien / Feb 18, 2013 09:53AM EST

looking at the work done by some Artists using paper it looks as though this programme would be great to have on android tablets

anyone any idea if there is a temporary alternative for android that I can use until the developers at fifty three have time to develop an android version?
thanks

Rob

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flameshaft / Feb 18, 2013 05:38PM EST
The Fiftythree team has mentioned before that they don't currently have plans for other platforms, wanting to do their best on the iPad first.
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Richard / Feb 22, 2013 08:13PM EST
just want to add that this amazing app should not be limited to apple.

android is now mature and will provide the return on investment if you are willing to even try.

set creativity free. let people who prefer not to use the closed and patriarchal eco system access. the true potential of paper is multi platform.
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Feb 22, 2013 11:21PM EST

Hi Richard,

It’s merely a matter of not having the time right now to build an Android port to our standards. We are hopeful that there will be opportunities in the future.

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Juana / Feb 23, 2013 01:47PM EST
Hi Devs,

I just downloaded this app on my dad's iPad today (was trying to look for an S Memo equivalent for him) and I instantly fell in love with it! It's sad that I can't get this on Android... But as soon as this becomes available for us, I'll be the first to make a purchase. :)

Cheers,
J
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Steve / Apr 02, 2013 05:09PM EDT
I have been using Android products for years now, and prefer it to iOS but I am seriously considering purchasing an iPad chiefly because of Paper. I love to draw, but every painting/sketching app I have used on Android - even ones that attempt to clone the interface of Paper - absolutely pale in comparison.

I do hope that you find the time and resources to make an app for Android. I will anticipate it with bated breath.
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Apr 02, 2013 05:10PM EDT

Thanks, Steve.

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Enrique / Apr 03, 2013 02:31AM EDT
I think Autocad Sketch is the best option right now. You have to pay for it but I think the last version is worth it. A pitty Paper won't be available for long.

Enrique
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Andrew / May 07, 2013 03:18PM EDT
I also would love to see paper for android if the team could find time for it. Nothing on the android market comes close to paper in its category. It would be amazing with the several tablets that have built in pen digitizer.
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Mochan / Jun 25, 2013 09:07PM EDT
This is such a loss, because iPads don't come with Wacom digitizers. IPad styli are rubbish. Give me Paper for my Galaxy Note, I can't think of anything more perfect.
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Andrea / Jul 14, 2013 05:29PM EDT
There is a product for android that is close it is called: Bamboo
http://www.wacom.com/en/products/software/bamboo-paper
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lauren / Jul 15, 2013 01:02PM EDT
bamboo paper
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Cynthia / Jul 21, 2013 02:43PM EDT
Please make this app available for android. My daughter has it on her ipad, which allows her to create beautiful works of art. I am jealous, because no android app comes this close.
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Sercan / Jul 21, 2013 02:43PM EDT
Hi. I have never paid for an app yet. But Paper 53 will br available for android i will be willinh to pay for it. It is unique. Please make it in use of android.

Thank you.
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Jul 21, 2013 02:45PM EDT

Hi folks,

If you know talented developers who seem like a good fit for FiftyThree, please send them our way!

http://www.fiftythree.com/jobs

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Scoshi / Jul 24, 2013 07:11PM EDT
I would love to see it on Win8 as well.
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Steve / Aug 24, 2013 08:38PM EDT
Hi guys, thanks for all the good work. I picked up Paper the day I read about it on The Verge and used it constantly on my iPad 3, eventually purchasing the brush pack add-on too. Since then, I've moved to Android. I recently bit the bullet on the new Nexus 7, and the biggest caveat for my move was your app. I hope that you give some serious thought to porting Paper over to Android since it is the biggest thing I miss on my iPad and evidently, I'm not the only one clamouring for it. Cheers.
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Aug 24, 2013 08:40PM EDT

Here’s a good article on how big of a challenge it is:

http://opensignal.com/reports/fragmentation-2013/

Still seeking top developers who are up to it!

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Werner Beroux / Sep 25, 2013 02:39PM EDT
Fragmentation is an issue but remember that every website has much more fragmentation that this. If you take Bamboo for example, it only officially supports S3 but you can make it run on other devices pretty fine.

Screen resolution fragmentation: Follow simple website/gaming principle of scaling smartly.

Version fragmentation: Get your baseline, old versions are usually outdated devices which may not perform well anyway.

I'm sure plenty of people would be willing to test the application on their device and report issues. Given the current market share and even though Android people tend to buy less apps this trend is rapidly getting better and better in favor of Android.
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matthew padgett / Oct 01, 2013 07:53PM EDT
If you target android 4.0 + you should be fine. That would cover about 67 % of android users. That's not even counting amazon devices running newer versions of android. Also its easy on android to make ONE great app for both tablet and phone without compromise!
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Ada / Oct 02, 2013 12:23AM EDT
I hope there will be plans for the Android. It currently has almost 80% of the smartphone market share and according to ABI Research, taking over the tablet market share as well. Anxiously awaiting!

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Sebastian / Oct 02, 2013 05:41PM EDT
I recently bought a Galaxy note 10.1 and have spent a lot of time looking for the best drawing app, S note is not bad, is usefull for quick notes and simple sketches, and work with folders that are similar to paper notebooks, and I also bought sketchbook pro that is a very professional drawing app but is not so friendly and doesnt have any way of storing my draws in any order. And believe me, when a friend (that doesnt even like to draw) show me your app i was jealous because is exactly what i've been looking for, so please consider taking this app to android devices, consider that new devices like note 10.1 are made specificly for artists and drawers, so you'll surely be a success in this kind of devices! Best wishes, hope to here good news soon!
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Sara / Oct 04, 2013 02:13PM EDT
I'm disappointed by the lack of Paper for Android as well.
Paper has is it's lovely drawing menu and water colour brush.
I've been looking around the store and have found few apps that have reduced my disappointment when using my Galaxy Note (I freaking love that thing!), so I thought I'd share:
Paperless: Similar inky pen which is lovely to use, and an attempt at book style menu (needs a lot of work), but be warned, no auto save.
Auryn Ink: You can't go back to a previous work, or resize the canvas but this gives the most realistic water colour effect I've seen on a tablet. How do they do it?
Clover Paint: My new favourite. This app is awesome. Sub menus in the gallery and more brushes would be nice, but the current bushes work well, the adjustable autosave, unlimited auto expanding canvas size, picture and camera import, precise (input numerical values) layer shift and rotate, customisable menus, .... it's was alien looking and daunting at first, but a bit of study pays off.
I'd love to hear other suggestions!
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Andreas / Oct 12, 2013 01:38PM EDT
My dad got it on his iPad and i love it. Please make it for Android devices too! (Only tablets maybe..? If it is too hard to make it for all devices..)
I got a GALAXY Nlte 10.1 and Im sad because thrre isnt even a single app that is as good as Paper. So please, consider it, even if it only for tablets.
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Akiko / Oct 19, 2013 09:31PM EDT
I'm literally in love with your app, it's awesome... I'm going to buy a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and it's really sad that I won't be able to use this app since I'm buying it only because the S-pen is really good for drawing :(
I'm a Fine Arts student and I know a lot of other people in my field that don't like/want/own an iPad but would love to use this app...
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Mido / Oct 20, 2013 08:43PM EDT
You should really consider making this app for android tablets! It would surely knock out any other Drawing or doodling programs on the android platform. A perfect penetration to the market!
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Nathaniel Kelley / Oct 23, 2013 01:35PM EDT
This app is incredible, but I am an android user. I do not agree and do not find Apple's iOS UI pleasing at all, as I thrive on the ability to create and customize my experience with my phone. I have even considered moving over to get an iPad BECAUSE of this app, but that would be $400 out of my pocket. Apple's products are lagging behind and no longer can they e called the best products on the market. There are cheaper, better designed, and more powerful alternatives to the iPad and it should not be in 53's best interest to continue ignoring the growing user base of android. With the release of the Nexus 7 (2013) and the imminent release of the Nexus 10 (2013), 53 and Paper should work to not port over to android as one Dev mentioned earlier, but create their own android team. Android is the fastest growing platform not only domestically, but internationally.

The design and beauty through simplicity would be well appreciated in the Play Store. Hopefully you guys will decide to look past company divides and pave paths for design by releasing Paper in the Play Store. Paper in the Play Store would likely be one of the most successful apps and it would surely increase the growing number of Android tablet users.

In terms of fragmentation being an issue, there is a reason that Nexus devices are supposed to be the standard for developers. These developer devices (notice I call them developer devices and not consumer goods, as they are released for the developers) allow developers to design for multiple sized devices. Fragmentation is also changed using graphics scaling. Graphics scaling does not mean black bars though, which is likely one major design issue that worries 53.

In the end, Android is my home. The UI that stock android presents is clean and simple but allows for creativity and customization. 53 is a company based around the ideals of design and creativity and its rejection of a platform that lives and breathes creativity is against the mission of the company. Paper has the potential to change the Android app ecosystem if released in the Play Store it will be one of the most, if not the most, beautifully designed android apps. This app has caused many people to start buying iPads and if released on Android, it would cause the android tablet ecosystem to flourish spawning innovation and growth. I hope 53 pushes itself beyond the comfort of the closed garden ecosystem of apple. It is a big risk and it is very time consuming but the rewards would be bountiful.
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Oct 23, 2013 01:38PM EDT

Thanks for taking the time to write that, Nathaniel. If you know anyone who would be up to a challenge like that, we’re hiring:

http://www.fiftythree.com/jobs

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Samti / Oct 23, 2013 08:02PM EDT
Like other people, i left the ipad for a nexus 7. I was bored of the iJail, but the thing that i miss the most is paper. Please, make the Android app, transporte and greetings from Spain!
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GW / Oct 24, 2013 07:32PM EDT
I love Paper. I hate that it's Apple-only. I'm another iPad to Nexus refugee. C'mon guys. Get with the program.
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Stephanie / Oct 27, 2013 02:46PM EDT
Good luck guys, we know that is difficult but not impossible. I love my Xperia Z1 and i don't need a iPad, i would like to draw in my Smartphone with Paper. Please!! We're waiting for it. Congratulations from Spain :)

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Hetz Ben Hamo / Oct 27, 2013 04:58PM EDT
Dear FiftyThree employees,

I just looked at your jobs pages, but there isn't any job for Android developers. Many people who would like to work for you and have Android experience/would like to work as Android developers - will not send their CV since Android job is not there.

If you're serious about Android and the challenges, then please update the Jobs pages, publish your requirements from such a developers etc..
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Oct 27, 2013 05:00PM EDT

If you would like to apply, please do! We are not currently working on the Android project, which is why there is no specific job listing.

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Mina / Nov 08, 2013 02:00PM EST
I would also like to throw my hat into the mix for this. I'm aware that it can be very challenging to make Paper and 53 available for Android capacitive screens and digitizers, but I also think it would be a missed opportunity not to hire an android developer/team for the task. Thanks.
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Nathan / Nov 10, 2013 04:36AM EST
Ditto on the android app. Everyone has iOS apps and android apps. Why is this any different? I understand the difficulties but paper 53 is not the first to successfully deal with this.
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danielle / Nov 11, 2013 12:53PM EST
i do question if it would also be available for windows like windows surface
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Nov 11, 2013 12:53PM EST

Hi Danielle,

At the moment we’re focusing on the iPad. The answers here for Android apply to all other platforms as well.

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Francisco / Nov 14, 2013 01:28PM EST
I'm thinking about getting a Nexus 7 tablet but I love the Paper app and it would be one of the main reasons for me to buy an iPad mini instead of the Nexus.
I searched the internet for questions like this one and also for alternatives of the app for Android but there's no such thing.
But I found this, and it may come in hand to FifhyThree's developers, so they can easily make an Android version:
http://www.apportable.com/
You probably knew this one before but I'm only trying to speed up the process of making a version of Paper for Android, as I and thousands of other people want this app so badly.
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Nov 14, 2013 01:29PM EST

Thanks, Francisco. I’m not sure we would use this, but it’s good to know about.

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Moosa Mahsoom / Nov 19, 2013 12:37PM EST
I think you guys should really contact Apportable. With their assistance, the developers of Biophilia and Ridiculous Fishing were able to port their apps to Android with a lot less time and resources.... At least, give them a call and see if it's possible.
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Tiago Ribeiro / Nov 19, 2013 12:37PM EST
I also would like to see Paper app on Android and Windows 8.1 (Surface would be an awesome tool to use Paper).

Why don't you guys use crowfunding (like Kickstarter) to support you on hiring a team and other resources? Everyone is using this method nowadays, and I bet you would get alot of support and could make the app possible on these platforms. I wish you would.

Greetings from Portugal! :)
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bored / Nov 19, 2013 12:37PM EST
Hello, when can I expect Paper on my Raspberry Pi?
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mempko / Nov 19, 2013 12:37PM EST
dalas,

If you are asking people to apply, but don't have a listing for an android developer, I suspect that means you do not have budget for android work. Because if you did, you would have a listing for an android developer.

So what is the point of applying if the person is going to work for the iOS project instead?
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Thomas / Nov 19, 2013 12:37PM EST
Dalas, I appreciate your continued participation in this thread, even though Android is obviously not a big priority for you guys at the moment.

I'm a nexus 4 and 7 owner and while Android has great versions of the apps I need, there are a couple categories that remain sparse. Second only to PDF annotation are drawing apps. I'm a sketchbook pro user and photoshop touch is great on Android as well. But at the moment, it's the stylus support than I'm lacking. Your stylus is very attractive, as is the evernote stylus, but neither is supported on Android at the moment.

I'm generally not convinced by the fragmentation argument, though I totally get why an iOS developer would be concerned. As others have pointed out- the bulk of Paper's constituency are likely owners of only 3 or 4 different devices spanning only 2 or 3 OS versions. I'm guessing this includes the Samsung Note line and the Nexus 7 2013. As a 7 owner, I'd love to have Paper, but the truth is, the touch screen on the 7 still has issues that Google has not addressed (though they claim to have) and make it a less than ideal device for FiftyThree to spend time and money developing for (at least in the near future- by the time you guys get started on this project, there will be a new version, with, hopefully, better hardware).

This leaves the Note. Developing for the Note line of devices would make a lot of sense given their popularity with your audience and the built-in, quality stylus. This would give you a decent foothold in the Android ecosystem. I know a bunch of Note owners and every one of them would find your app attractive.

As for OS fragmentation, it's well documented that Google is actively addressing this problem. Screen size is still a legit concern, especially given the nature of your app. But, as I said, there's only a handful of quality android tablets out there to begin with and your audience is using even fewer. Phone support would be the same, the people most likely to use your app and purchase additional tools are probably on only two different devices- namely GS4 and HTC One (and both look to be getting kitkat very soon- no OS fragmentation there).

In my experience, pro android users would consider Paper support as a deciding factor in choosing a device. How big is this market? No idea. I'm in New York, where the iOS user base is out-sized compared to the rest of the world and creative-class users definitely prefer iOS, but this is changing as I mentioned above I still personally know quite a few android users and most of them would find your app attractive enough to pay for the additional tools.
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Nov 19, 2013 12:47PM EST

Wow, lots of activity here this morning.

Moosa: Thanks for that recommendation. It’s good to have information like that on hand.

Tiago: We are being very careful while building our company, so it’s not merely a financial issue.

bored: That would be cool, but it’s not in the works at the moment :)

mempko: I wouldn’t say that it’s a budgeting issue. If you’re a strong Android developer, apply and talk to us about possible solutions!

Thomas: Thanks for your thoughtful reply. Paper is very finely tuned for iPad, so it seems extremely difficult to deliver the same experience over so many devices. Paper is not meant to be used on a small screen either, which is why iPhone is not supported. The drawing experience is very important to us, and whoever helps us meet the challenge of the Android / Windows market would have to protect that experience.

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James / Nov 19, 2013 05:53PM EST
I have to agree with the ones who have suggested developing for just the Galaxy Note line of devices. I have a Note 10.1 and currently use Sketchbook Pro all the time, but the interface and features of Paper make me jealous of my wife and her iPad Air. The Note line particularly makes sense for your app as 99.9% of the people buying the devices are interested in creating digitally using the built in stylus. These people have already shown they were willing to shell out extra cash to pay for a premium device with stylus, and would no doubt be willing to shell out for the whole range of tools available within Paper. Note users ARE your market, as opposed to IOS users that range from infants to ancients, only using the iPad for its "simplicity".
Please develop for Android, or at least for Note devices.
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Mladen Kovacevic / Nov 19, 2013 05:53PM EST
I'm sorry for going slightly off-topic but I just saw your new Pencil product and have to say that I'm very interested. Being an Android user sadly, I understand that palm rejection, erase and blend will only work with iPads. Without these features how would Pencil's functionality differ from a regular non-powered pen that you can get very cheaply. Does Bluetooth hold some magic sauce for us Android users as well?
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Nov 19, 2013 05:55PM EST

Thanks for your thoughts, James.

Mladen, without Paper and an iPad that supports the extra features, Pencil would just be identical to any non-powered stylus.

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Mike Corbett / Nov 20, 2013 01:40PM EST
This is awesome and would pair well with nexus 7, I am not a developer, but can't wait
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nancy / Nov 21, 2013 07:29PM EST
you know 53 employee ithink that you telling lie to all of us in here because you hate android you wont even think about it !! because your team can easily hire a professional android developer team. to make android version of. paper app but you can not do this with us!! your company 53 made a stylus but it is not even. near to s pen stylus. you can make your app just for tablets with 1920*1080pixel resolution or qxvga resolution its easy but you just tell us that its not possible!!we are not kids!!:@:@!!
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Nov 21, 2013 07:41PM EST

Hi nancy,

I’m not sure how to respond. There is no conspiracy here, but I’m not sure how to convince you otherwise.

A recurring theme that I see in these threads is that everyone believes their request is “easily” fulfilled. I’m sorry, but this is just not true. Even if every individual request was easy to fulfill (none of them are), there would still be the matter of planning and executing all of the requests, which would be far from easy.

We are listening to everyone’s feedback and we keep these topics in our internal discussions, but we are evolving Paper at the speed and in the direction that we feel is best. It’s not done with any malice towards anyone here, we are simply trying to do our best to build tools that help people create.

Our team is currently small, and spending time ensuring Paper works on many different devices would dilute our efforts to build the product with our current team. Hiring is not a simple matter of bringing anyone who can write code on board. Just as we pay great attention to the design of our products, we are very careful in our hiring. You would be surprised at the number of interviews and presentations new candidates must go through. We are focused on quality and building a team with shared values and culture.

We really appreciate the passion that users from other platforms have shown in their desire for Paper, but our absence from these markets is not a sign of contempt for anyone or any technology. We plan to be around for a long time and to keep building.

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Ethan Chen / Nov 21, 2013 10:35PM EST
Hi guys,

Just pay the $10 to this developer instead:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.nattou.layerpainthd

Seems they are not enthusiastic at Android platform at all and would rather fund sourcing for the stylus first!
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Nov 21, 2013 10:36PM EST

Hi Ethan,

Thanks for the link. Even if we were on Android, I think people would want to use that app in addition to ours. We have always said that Paper is not a full-featured illustration app.

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Pedro / Dec 07, 2013 12:22PM EST
I found a better replacement of Paper for Android, is called Paperless (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.jeremieklemke.drawing), great app with Layer support, transparency controls and more. So, you see it can be done on Android.
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Tom / Dec 09, 2013 04:44PM EST
SketchBook Mobile is probably the best (from AutoDesk). Probably one of the more advanced painting apps anywhere on mobile period. Quill is an AMAZING sketchbook app. I use it as my primary note/sketching app on my HTC Flyer. The thing is you need a good pen. There's a 10" version of the Flyer (the Puccini I believe?) that Verizon had once upon a time. Those two were the best tablets for drawing out there. Sad they don't make them anymore (you can still get them though, eBay, maybe Amazon even). The reason is the digitizer. Samsung has a few tablets as well that are also quite good so I hear.

It's really hard to get beautiful sketches on tablets though. Nothing will replace actual paper. Painting is a bit easier because the strokes are broader. The pencil that 53 has is a cute but it's incredibly thick. I'd never want to use it. I think the Paper app is terrific though in general and they have had a lot of success marketing the hell out of it. They are doing everything right...But at the end of the day I don't expect them to run to Android until they've exhausted the iOS channel. If ever. So that said, try Quill and SketchBook Mobile.
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Lendsey / Dec 09, 2013 04:46PM EST
Any plans to make Pencil work with iPad 2? I love Paper and love the possibilities that Pencil gives but am very upset I'd have to buy another iPad just to use it. Can you explain please? Thanks!
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Dec 09, 2013 04:48PM EST

Hi Lendsey,

The iPad 2 lacks the Bluetooth LE technology that Pencil requires.

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James / Dec 15, 2013 08:36PM EST
Like many others, I came here looking for Paper on Android. My questions have been answered.

I'm only chiming in to give Dalas some praise for the fine job he's done throughout this thread: Knowledgeable, Courteous, Professional. I'm impressed.
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John / Dec 15, 2013 08:36PM EST
Any update on if there will be an android version of this any time soon? If there is I`d love to know so I can buy it...
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Dec 15, 2013 08:37PM EST

Thanks, James. :)

John, no updates at this time.

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Lindsay / Dec 18, 2013 02:04PM EST
I love my Android tablet (Acer Iconia a500) and would like to add my voice to the crowd longing for Paper & Pencil for Android. I trust that I'm among a long list of folks with a bit of iPad envy that such a cool product is available for it, but not enough to actually want to purchase an iDevice just to use it (I have several iPod Touches and have been burned enough times by the rapid way in which they become outdated and unsupported). Thanks for all your time and answers - I'm sure it's not a simple solution, but it's certainly one that has a market. :)
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Anna / Dec 19, 2013 01:32PM EST
I have a cintiq companion hybrid coming in the mail, which aside from being a cintiq, runs as an android tablet. I just found out about your application and am dying to have it (especially as a dedicated Moleskine user!). Do you think there is enough interest in having paper run on android to start development ? Typically, I'm an iOS user, but I do not have an ipad and am not planning to get one. I would absolutely benefit from having an android paper app available, and am willing to be you could charge for it as opposed to it being free on iOS.

Please keep this thread updated! The most I can hope for at this point is that people continue to show their interest and voice their opinion on having an available android application for paper.
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Dec 19, 2013 01:33PM EST

Hi Anna,

Right now there are no updates to share. We’re still focused on iOS at the moment.

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Ono / Dec 27, 2013 03:14PM EST
Enough people have chimed in to make the case that there is a pretty robust demand for Paper on the Android platform. Understandably, as a company, 53 decided to focus its limited resources on doing one thing well, as opposed to 2 or 3 marginally.

However... I believe that enough people would pay $10 for this app, to make this a (quasi)self-funded project within the company. With that in mind, and with the additional Pencil and Book orders coming from these new customers, it might just make sense to have your management take a second look at deploying for the Android.
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Dec 27, 2013 03:16PM EST

Hi Ono,

I promise you that at almost every full company meeting, one of the things I say is “we’re continuing to get requests for Paper on other platforms.” Right now, the consensus is still that we want to focus on iOS. It’s not a matter of funding as much as it is retaining focus.

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chris / Jan 02, 2014 02:58PM EST
Like everyone here, I am very interested in having an android version of this app.
(My friends and family are too) I would love to be a beta tester once you guys at 53
kick off with the android version

Can't wait!
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Joris / Jan 06, 2014 07:38PM EST
Hi 53Employee,

What would be the incentive for you to change your mind? I think it's important to tell this to people so they know what to expect. At least formulate it for yourself.

Would it be a small amount of devices with high marketshare? (thus, low amount of fragmentation)
An anti-fragmentation solution from Google?
High demand overall? How high?
None at all? (this is in my opinion still a better answer than the one you are giving now)

Right now, it seems you are mostly saying "we're working on iOS and Android scares us"

That's understandable, since it looks like a daunting task, but I'd advise you to at least go speak with a good Android developer. In actual practice it can be much less of a problem that it seems. There are several solutions, one of which is limiting your supply to just a few devices. (your app would only be available for those devices on Google Play). You also have the advantage of a willing community that can help development via the beta programme. But that is an openness that might not really work for you, that's fine.

All in all, if you keep bringing it up at meetings without actually getting fresh ideas in about it, you will just be regurgitating the same issues and not ever going to move anywhere. If you are serious about exploring the possibility, do the actual exploring, if you are not, tell people. Simple as that.
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Carlos / Jan 06, 2014 07:39PM EST
According to the latest market analytics iOS device sales declined by almost 20% in 2013, while Android device sales increased by almost 40%! This trend is expected to continue into the future, unless Apple releases a "Steve Jobs-like" game-changing device. Quite frankly, the next game-changing device will most likely come from Samsung. Additionally, beware of the sleeping giant; Microsoft Surface Pro is also catching on with artists looking for a real Wacom stylus experience. To grow and stay competitive, companies must not only be flexible but also be willing to take risks. Be careful not to let tunnel vision keep you so focused on one thing, that you don't see the bigger picture. Enough said.

BTW, excellent job on the apps and the Pencil.
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Jan 06, 2014 07:44PM EST

Thanks for your thoughts, Joris. I’m sorry that I can’t give you a more definitive answer, but I can only say that we haven’t ruled out expanding to other devices. Right now we’re focused on the iPad, and we still have a lot of work to do there. If I hear of any changes in strategy, I will share them in the discussions.

Thanks, Carlos.

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Sam / Jan 13, 2014 03:01PM EST
I don't get the point that so many people here don't see what fifty-three is doing with paper. Watch their videos on vimeo (vimeo.com/fiftythree) or just look at the websites of paper and pencil. It's about the EXPERIENCE you get with paper, paired with pencil and the iPad. There is no other combination or device out there yet that could fit or match this experience.

It's about the complete solution you get, not just bringing an app to another platform and a touchscreen device. And if you used paper at any time, you know how it feels and what all that means.
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Ry / Jan 13, 2014 03:01PM EST
Hey Dalas,

Is it your full time job to let people know your dev team is focused on the ipad?

Just Kidding :)

Your stuff looks great and I've been keeping an eye on your project for the last year, Just wanted to throw my hat in the ring and let you know you have another Nexus 10 owner keen on buying your application and pencil when your team eventually releases an Android port.

I work in web development myself, and have some experience with Android applications, and I know the task of building an application that can respond to the wide variety of devices while maintaining consistency is a little daunting, but just like with responsive web design I think the end result could do a lot for your app. Having Paper scale safely between a mobile phone and the tablet would really widen your audience and be perfect for the phablet range of devices.

Anyways, best of luck in the future!
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Jan 13, 2014 03:01PM EST

Thanks, Sam and Ry.

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Dan / Jan 14, 2014 09:48PM EST
KINDLE - We REALLY need Pencil (and Paper) for Kindle. PLEASE make that happen! Why not Ask Amazon's Kindle dev team to help shoulder the dev work?
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Jan 14, 2014 09:48PM EST

Hm, I don’t think that’s how it works :)

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Dan / Jan 14, 2014 11:01PM EST
Hey Dallas ,
Thanks for watching this column. Android continues to gain marketshare, iOS may not be looooosing popularity per say but does seem to be just reboxing the same thing as though it were Pepsi Cola. I love apple, but have been disappointed with the recent lack of innovation so I moved to Android.

Question:
Why not start with a more confined, controllable, and sustainable android ecosystem and just get your feet wet with Android? Consider Amazon's Kindle app store for example. Kindle is Android and Kindle is progressive, It has fewer devices, and they all have 7" or larger screens, the newest round of Kindles boast better resolution than the new iPad Air does. This would be a big step toward acknowledging 53's fans who have moved away from apple and still love you guys. Or if not Kindle, then maybe just a beta for the Galaxy Note?

I have a Kindle and hence my specific interest, but I would totally replace my phone with a Galaxy Note if you'd just make this app available.

What do you think?


Thanks,
Dan


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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Jan 14, 2014 11:02PM EST

Hi Dan,

It’s not my decision alone to make, but I’ll share your thoughts with the team. Right now we have a lot on our plate and I don’t think we could do that any time soon.

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Chris / Jan 15, 2014 01:04PM EST
Android app please.
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Dennis / Jan 20, 2014 01:36PM EST
Paper 53 is an AMAZING APP. First I had an iphone 5 and had the application both on my phone and on my ipa
Ipad. I then got the samsung galaxy note 2 and as I tried to download it my heart broke in two! I was really really really mad they haven't fone this app on android. The thung that got me more ypset is that my br9ther later on took my Ipad and I dont have oaper 53 anymore so please please please do paper 53 on android because you are losung millions and millions of customers that way . Thank your!
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Jordi / Jan 28, 2014 05:20PM EST
Another big vote for an android version of Paper. I was drooling on the screen of my Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 thinking what it would be like to have it on that screen.... Folks, artist people also like GOOD technology, make it for android pllllleeeeaaasseee..
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Jim McAleer / Feb 03, 2014 01:37PM EST
Herd about paper due to the unpleasantness with Facebook. And I love the app. I'm hoping when Facebook cuts you a check you might consider hiring a small android team to develop the port.
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Egg / Feb 03, 2014 03:02PM EST
Joshua Topolsky tweeted "Also, I hope Paper does come to Android soon. I certainly don't buy that there's anything in the iOS version that can't be done on Android".

Dude from the Verge has our back. Get on it, FiftyThree!
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Isaac / Feb 03, 2014 03:10PM EST
The android app could be?
Not just for tablets if not mobile like galaxy mini s3, s4 a nexus.
An application would be very well
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Lux / Feb 03, 2014 09:52PM EST
Read through the whole page of comments, and I'll toss in my request with theirs...

Paper for Android please!

May the supersoftware gods shine up on thee and produce some developers specifically for this task...

p.s. I would pay for it...the app. not the peeps. peeps meaning developers. yep. ty. :>
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j / Feb 04, 2014 12:40PM EST
Waiting for paper android as well...saw the app when it first came out and I'm surprised an android is not out by now. The app is impressiv, keep up the good work and
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kenji / Feb 04, 2014 12:40PM EST
+1 for Windows 8/RT support
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J / Feb 14, 2014 03:09PM EST
No comments from Dalas in a whole month? Dalas are you ok? I'm worried about you. Either something bad happened to you or you don't want to comment on this thread because you are keeping a secret from us and can't bear to read our requests without letting it slip that they will soon be fulfilled! I'll assume that the latter is the case. Thanks Dalas, your silence says enough. But your secret is safe with me, I won't tell anyone... shhh...
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Feb 14, 2014 03:11PM EST

Hah :) Sorry, I just don’t have any news to share. We’re very busy supporting Pencil and working on some big projects for the future of Paper. Right now, expanding to other platforms still does not seem like it will happen soon.

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Wesley / Feb 17, 2014 01:15PM EST
I have read through this forum and understand 53s decision to focus on iOS. As a business owner myself, it's a smart move to perfect your product before pushing it out to other platforms.

I do have a suggestion though. I think it would be great if 53 does what android did. They went open source. Maybe 53 could release a package onto the internet for free or for a small price to let android devs tinker with it and see what they can come up with on the android side. Of course there should be a term of service for this download so that 53 doesn't lose money.

I hope 53 continues to grow and will move over to android and/or Windows/Linux. Thank you Salad and 53 for your time.
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FiftyThree Employee dalas verdugo / Feb 17, 2014 01:17PM EST

I have to be honest, I don’t think it’s likely that we will release an open source version of Paper.

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Bruce / Feb 20, 2014 01:16PM EST
I really think you should make this app available for android, its the best app i have ever seen and i love it....pls pls pls
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ed / Mar 03, 2014 01:05PM EST
Artflow for Android

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